Posts by cha ching

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JW Child Abuse Documentary

by cappytan in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulswb2avxvc.

let's set aside our differences for the moment and appreciate this excellent documentary cedars put together that should prove to be an invaluable tool in helping to expose the child abuse issues in the organization.. i was humbled to be able to help with this project on such an important subject, though my part in it was insignificant..

cha ching

This was absolutely amazing and very professional. Thank you to all involved for the hours it must have taken to produce this.

The most crucial pieces of evidence, quotes and experiences were put together in an uncluttered, clear and 'hit the nail on the head' way. Great questions were asked that have to make the people with a conscience have to think.

I enjoyed the music, great job, and the use of different scenery that was used to break up the different topics.... good photography. The reader, of the documents and scriptures is very good also, I give my hats off & thanks to him also.

The 3 countries, the estimates of how many pedophiles, this was all put together in a very logical, simple, fresh and powerful way.

Thank you Lloyd Evans for the great job! It will be historical.

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Left Bethel to get married and have children, found the TTATT instead

by jehobi in

long story, short story.

grew up on a farm, went to bethel, married a sister and left bethel.

found ttatt after my cousin died refusing a blood transfusion.

cha ching

Congratulations jehobi, welcome to the light.

Like Bonsai said, perhaps the dam (of information) will soon break!

Welcome! Cha Ching!

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Vacation Time! Going To A Regional?

by millie210 in

this is the first year i have not been at a summer assembly.. the friends here locally just got back from the regional in our area.. they mostly took their vacation time from work to attend.. while they were gone i had an epiphany...... why is it that the rank and file take their summer vacation time to attend an assembly (we have all heard this hammered in from the platform) whereas the governing body attend as part of their "work".. it cant be as simple as "well, they are giving talks" because there are many brothers that give talks from the rank and file also who have used up precious vacation hours and drug their entire family there plus give their parts.. or what about other brothers and sisters who volunteer and clean at the assembly.

on vacation.. so the pubs.

travel at their own expense, pay for their own rooms and food, and give parts and it is supposed to be viewed as their vacation.. the gb and c.o.s travel to the same assembly and stay in provided for accomadations, give a talk or two and they are "working".. what is that about?.

cha ching

I am with you, Millie.... I think they should ride bicycles like the brothers in Africa have to also... Or walk thru croc infested waters... You KNOW Jehovah would protect THEM!

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Hello Everybody

by Thomas the Bill Engine in

jw
friends

i didn't see an introduction forum anywhere but i thought it would be weird to start posting without first introducing myself so, here we are.

i'm 15, and i've been looking for a place to discuss my thoughts on the religion that i'm pretty much stuck in at the moment.

my mom and dad divorced over their different beliefs over a year ago (my mom is jw and my dad is an very knowledgeable apostate, so you can see how they would fight over it), and since then i've stopped believing altogether.. just thought i'd say hello.

cha ching

Hey Thomas, good for you!

Hopefully, being so young, you will have time to untangle your brain from 'the wicked web WT weaves' in it's attempts to deceive... and be able to lead a cult free life.

Make friends with people outside the JW's, young and old, join clubs, talk to teachers at school, and get closer to your dad. Enjoy life, and MOST of all... do not feel guilty whilest doing so.... but be careful, haha!

You are only 15, how I wish..... I am now older, just found out about the lies the WT told 5 years ago. My husband and kids got out too! I can't look back, just go forward, and learn the lessons from the past, right?

Like Faydunaway said, everyone here can relate, and you will have a sounding board, a place to ask questions, seek answers and we all understand what it is like to be there.

Take care, cha ching!

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Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy

by pale.emperor in

this is my first post.

i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.

no friends, me at work.

cha ching

Sorry to say it, PE, but.... Nazi is a good description... Would you put yourself in a Nazi concentration camp? Nope..... That is not life. Make choices that will improve your life, not make it worse... You only have so much of it left.

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Trying To Leave - Im Going Crazy

by pale.emperor in

this is my first post.

i really feel i need to leave the jw's rather than go along pretending everything is perfect etc.

no friends, me at work.

cha ching

OMG pale emperor, so sorry for you.. Welcome here, at least you will be able to express yourself & know that the people you are telling cashmere relate, right?

I guess I find myself wondering if I could live like that.. Or WANT to live like that???

Is your wife sincere, or just a shallow user? I hate to sound harsh, but reality can be a "beep".....

Once you find out /decide if you can stomach this most wonderful, happy, honest organization in the world, Then the getting decisions can be made.. And don't think that "this is a'local' problem"... It's everywhere.

Good luck!

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Tight Pants

by pixel in

today is friday.

so let's see something refreshing on the new june 2016 study wt.

tight pants!.

cha ching

The tighter they grip, the faster they slip! (Just in case you are like my sister, and don't get it.. I am not talking about the pants, haha!) I am referring to their Pharisaical grip of power & rule making. ;-)

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FORENSIC ANALYSIS: The Governing Body as Lying Liars who Lie

by Terry in

pattern of excuses.

example #1. blame the bible !.

proclaimer's book*** jv chap.

cha ching

Thank you again, Terry!

I love the title! Governing Body as Lying Liars who Lie.

Thank you for spending your time finding all these quotes!

So many people make excuses for them: "They are so good hearted" "They work so hard" or even this lame, stupid, moronic one (my JW sister gave) "Don't tell anybody this, but I think they are just a bunch of little old men who might have alzheimers" Why is she listening to them!!???? Really? Go down to a rest home, and listen to someone with Alzheimers! Base your life on what they tell you????

They had the same pattern of reasoning when it came to 1975. Blame the publishers for getting too excited! Same b.s. from the same mouths.

How many people can get their hands on these publications? Or have the time? Keep running on the hamster wheel.... Run, run, run!

Do.... not.... sit....with.... men.... of.... lies....

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Reveal article Feb. 25, 2016 - "JWs' sex abuse scandal is a lot like Catholic Church's"

by AndersonsInfo in

https://www.revealnews.org/blog/jehovahs-witnesses-sex-abuse-scandal-is-a-lot-like-catholic-churchs/.

jehovah’s witnesses’ sex abuse scandal is a lot like catholic church’s.

by heidi hirvonen / february 25, 2016 .

cha ching

We are very fortunate to have a team as dedicated as this Reveal crew is, as they are willing to do the research it takes to get at the root of the problem.

Just like the Boston Globe took quite some time investigating the Catholic Church, to expose the problems from those at the top, it will take some time- and evidence - to expose those at the top in the Watchtower.

I remember as a child hearing over and over again denunciations of the Catholic Church. Right? Nowadays, when I read through court documents, I was surprised to read & hear the WT lawyers use the sickening, heartless excuse of "clergy penitent privilege" in every breath and sentence it could.

Heidi Hervonen did an excellent job linking the Boston Globe articles, the Public Radio Show in Minneapolis, and last year's announcement by the Vatican that it will set up a tribunal to hold bishops accountable if they do not deal with sex abusing priests properly.

Is the WT now going to have to "set up tribunals" to "deal with Circuit Overseers" or "Service Desk officials" or "Wt lawyers" (let's not forget the men who are the "Guardions Of Doctrine') who do not deal with child sex abuse properly to keep up with the Catholic Church?

That's ironic, isn't it? The WT "keeping up with" the Catholic Church? Well, it certainly did when it came to child sex abuse occurring over and over again, and nothing being done about it, didn't they?

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Do todays Jw's care at all about Russell and the pyramid?

by olongapo joe in

just wondering, as i will be visiting active jw family in ohio in a few weeks, do you think it will be worthwhile dropping it into a conversation, about the wtbts pyramid near his grave, or try some other topic to try and wake them up.

i was never baptized and don't really care if they get upset or not, but it is only a day trip from ohio to pittsburgh, and thought it would be fun if they denied it, and then drove their to see it for ourselves.

cha ching

I have had a few people say, "someone else put that pyramid there after he died.".... and so begins the circular arguments.

I like the idea of saying, "I will not sit with men of lies.".... What was the first sin? lying.... What made the whole world fall into it's evilness? Satan lying... Satan is a liar, and the father of the lie. (To which JWs will agree)

Then, you bring up the ARC trials, and the lies that were told. It is not doctrine, it is just plain old lying. No excuses can be given for lying.

Just keep repeating, "God will not make me sit with men of lies" "Jesus would not shun me or disfellowship me for not wanting to sit with people who act like his number one adversary" "My conscience will not allow me to support liars" "Do I have to support people who lie?"